Jan Levine: Rumors: Staal buyout/ Holden plus a pick to Toronto for Tyler Bozak Take both with a grain of salt

I think this Holden/Bozak thing has brought about the dumbest tweets from Ranger fans I have seen yet, and that was hard to do.

we're not helping you guys get into the playoffs by giving you bozak.

we're not helping you guys get into the playoffs by giving you bozak.
- Tumbleweed

Please send JVR home. Thanks

we're not helping you guys get into the playoffs by giving you bozak.
- Tumbleweed

we usually don't need help getting into the playoffs, but, you know we arent the mighty Maple leafs, rulers of post season hawkey

I don't think there's any reason to buyout Staal yet. Wait until next summer when he has to submit a 15 team list and hope we can interest someone by retaining some salary (maybe $2 million a year) and adding a pick. I don't see that being a stretch. As fans were saying he has no value, which we said about Girardi and then he went out and signed a 2 year $6 million deal when everyone was predicting he would get league minimum or a 1 year $1 million deal. Wait till next summer and see what happens.

we usually don't need help getting into the playoffs, but, you know we arent the mighty Maple leafs, rulers of post season hawkey
- jimbro83

you guys are lacking center depth.

we're going to be fighting to get in the playoffs.

your guys lack of center depth may put us in direct competition for a WC spot.

we're not going to make a trade that makes you guys better in the short term and makes us worse in the short term.

Please send JVR home. Thanks
- mdw7413

for krieder

I think this Holden/Bozak thing has brought about the dumbest tweets from Ranger fans I have seen yet, and that was hard to do.
- jimbro83

I hear you but felt there had been enough discussions on it, that I wanted to put in my two cents - hopefully balanced - on it.

I don't think there's any reason to buyout Staal yet. Wait until next summer when he has to submit a 15 team list and hope we can interest someone by retaining some salary (maybe $2 million a year) and adding a pick. I don't see that being a stretch. As fans were saying he has no value, which we said about Girardi and then he went out and signed a 2 year $6 million deal when everyone was predicting he would get league minimum or a 1 year $1 million deal. Wait till next summer and see what happens.
- nyrangers9479

Unless Staal has a major turn around season, he is negative value.

It would be like a bunch of guys going to the bunny ranch and choosing which girl they would like to get to know better. Staal would be the girl at the end with the gimpy leg, lazy eye, and breath like a sh!t house on a tuna boat.

you guys are lacking center depth.

we're going to be fighting to get in the playoffs.

your guys lack of center depth may put us in direct competition for a WC spot.

we're not going to make a trade that makes you guys better in the short term and makes us worse in the short term.
- Tumbleweed

look I agree that the Rangers and Leafs aren't making a trade any time soon

but, we wont have a problem getting into playoffs

for krieder
- Tumbleweed

Got to throw something else in for that trade.

I'm praying we buy out Staal. Why keep him? He is killing us out there. Yes It's a lot of dead cap space over the next 4 years, but he is 5.7M of dead space if we keep him. He is only going to keep getting worse, as impossible as that seems, and take ice time away from our young guys. He HAS to go

I'm praying we buy out Staal. Why keep him? He is killing us out there. Yes It's a lot of dead cap space over the next 4 years, but he is 5.7M of dead space if we keep him. He is only going to keep getting worse, as impossible as that seems, and take ice time away from our young guys. He HAS to go
- ELew11

8 years of dead cap space.

Leafs need Bozak to occupy one of their top three centre roles. Without him, they'd have to shift Nylander into the middle, and Babcock seems reluctant to do that

I certainly wouldn't be interested in moving him for a pylon like Holden

look I agree that the Rangers and Leafs aren't making a trade any time soon

but, we wont have a problem getting into playoffs
- jimbro83

most teams backups don't go 16-8-2. a .500 record by pavlec could leave you guys on the outside alone.

not to mention the bigger hole of trading away your 1C.

you guys could easily drop 8-10 points in the standings.

Got to throw something else in for that trade.
- mdw7413

name your price...

most teams backups don't go 16-8-2. a .500 record by pavlec could leave you guys on the outside alone.

not to mention the bigger hole of trading away your 1C.

you guys could easily drop 8-10 points in the standings.
- Tumbleweed

I like how all of a sudden Derek Stepan was a legit 1C

where were YOU to help me out the last few years dammit

I'm praying we buy out Staal. Why keep him? He is killing us out there. Yes It's a lot of dead cap space over the next 4 years, but he is 5.7M of dead space if we keep him. He is only going to keep getting worse, as impossible as that seems, and take ice time away from our young guys. He HAS to go
- ELew11

So use him as the 7th dman. You can't tell me next summer we couldn't trade him +a 2nd for a 6th or something like that retaining 2 million in cap space.

I like how all of a sudden Derek Stepan was a legit 1C

where were YOU to help me out the last few years dammit
- jimbro83

He's not though. Mika will be better and a lower cap hit.

I don't think there's any reason to buyout Staal yet. Wait until next summer when he has to submit a 15 team list and hope we can interest someone by retaining some salary (maybe $2 million a year) and adding a pick. I don't see that being a stretch. As fans were saying he has no value, which we said about Girardi and then he went out and signed a 2 year $6 million deal when everyone was predicting he would get league minimum or a 1 year $1 million deal. Wait till next summer and see what happens.
- nyrangers9479

Girardi didn't have trade value.

name your price...
- Tumbleweed

Nylander and Reilly. Maybe add a 1st.

I don't think there's any reason to buyout Staal yet. Wait until next summer when he has to submit a 15 team list and hope we can interest someone by retaining some salary (maybe $2 million a year) and adding a pick. I don't see that being a stretch. As fans were saying he has no value, which we said about Girardi and then he went out and signed a 2 year $6 million deal when everyone was predicting he would get league minimum or a 1 year $1 million deal. Wait till next summer and see what happens.
- nyrangers9479

Agreed.

This may come off bias but I still think Staal has a hell of a lot of NHL hockey left in him, if given better zone starts & sheltered minutes.

..but then again, that's a hell of a lot of cheddar for a guy playing 10 minutes a night.

Perhaps he can join Stepan in the desert next year.. the girls over at ASU can be pretty enticing.. maybe I'll move to Arizona too.

So use him as the 7th dman. You can't tell me next summer we couldn't trade him +a 2nd for a 6th or something like that retaining 2 million in cap space.
- nyrangers9479

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/no_trade_list.html

I like how all of a sudden Derek Stepan was a legit 1C

where were YOU to help me out the last few years dammit
- jimbro83

seems more like a 2C playing over his head.

but he stilled played those minutes for you guys and you didn't replace him ...